Boss of UAP military whistleblower goes public: the disclosure plan to help the world understand the reality of UFOs and non-human intelligence has an end date of “October 2030.”
Boss of UAP military whistleblower goes public: the disclosure plan to help the world understand the reality of UFOs and non-human intelligence has an end date of “October 2030.”
He says: ““We want disclosure through a controlled process, we want it in a way that doesn’t cause societal collapse. Like Eric Klyne talked about in 1177 BC, the system collapse of all the ancient societies. This is the order of concern about what may be happening.
“We have to address the technical, religious aspects of this.”
TheTabletopEngineer on
Well, at least we have a date to pin to test his credibility. In six years, let’s all come back here to see if he was right or not.
Low_town_tall_order on
How credible is this guy?
KeyEconomy958 on
Already starting to push back that 2027 date…
MetaQuaternion on
His “disclosure plan” is nothing more than his own best guess as to how this whole topic could be studied, declassified, and disseminated to the public.
It is not endorsed by anyone in the government, though it takes inspiration from the Schumer-Rounds UAPDA which seemed possible to pass when he gave this presentation at the SOL Foundation Symposium in September of last year.
Col. Nell seems like an upright fellow but we need to stop saying that his idea for a plan, which is great when viewed and considered for what it is, is the “government’s disclosure plan.”
sweetperiperi on
!remindme 6 goddamnyears
duuudewhat on
By disclosure plan, do you mean the government denying everything and not giving us any real information? Because that’s all we’ve been getting
bad---juju on
The upcoming years will be eventful. Hopefully we already know the 5 W’s and not just aliens are real. If we disclose without knowing the end game, then we are not ready to disclose without some panic. A six year disclosure plan makes me believe we know a lot behind the curtains already. My belief has always been that we have been given tech in exchange for abductions. Did we do this in fear of being behind in an earth arms race. Are some of the missing persons around the world a result of this?
Slow-Race9106 on
There’s a lot of misunderstanding and misinterpretation of this slide going around, and that appears to be the case on this thread.
This is Karl Nell’s proposed/suggested approach to disclose, not an official plan for disclosure to be enacted. Yes he did contribute to the UAPDA and is an influential figure, but don’t read too much into this presentation.
Shardaxx on
The moment they disclose actual proof of aliens, the rest of the timescale will go out of the window. You cannot escape that red line, no matter how much fluff you publish beforehand. When they tell the world aliens are real, there will be many questions, the answers to which will steer what happens next.
Who are they? Where are they from? How many different groups are operating here? Why are they here? How long have you known about them?
People will demand to know what the government knows about this, so they better have some good answers. People will demand the history of official interactions with the aliens, any communications, any ‘agreements’ as Grusch mentioned, any crashes or shootdown, any technology recovered, everything.
If the answers aren’t good ones, and I and others suspect they are not, then the fallout will be catastrophic. All trust in government will be lost. A million lawsuits will be filed by anyone abducted, anyone threatened by the military, any injuries or loss of life incurred in this ‘project’.
Nell is dreaming if he thinks this can go smoothly.
Turbulent-Pea-8826 on
I am taking this guy pretty damned serious. If he is making this up or if this is part of some disinformation campaign, then once again we seriously need to evaluate what the fuck is going on with our military and intelligence community.
If there really were no aliens or this guys really has no actual knowledge and is making this up, then he is deranged. So it begs the question how could someone like that be in the military and hold the position he does? That bears just as much investigation as the UFO question.
Primary-Attention-67 on
so disclosure will happen before my mortgage loan matures 😩
grimorg80 on
People say “you don’t understand the slides” and I’m like no, I understand. That’s not an agreed plan, just his speculation.
That still makes me go “fuck 2030, disclosure NOW”
realjoeydood on
*The Universe would collapse if I revealed this secret*.
Universes hate this guy for this one trick!
jPup_VR on
Mom “we have disclosure at home” … disclosure at home:
Side note though, isn’t disclosure of a disclosure plan… well… ***disclosure?***
Many-Hour-8591 on
Why Not Disclose Now if they are already here. I mean if they are here and not bothering us so what??? Is he suggesting that we may see a UFO but we have just to pretend they dont exist. There is somthing missing here!!!
freshouttalean on
l’ll believe it when I see it
fuN3hbun3h on
And it damn well better be the most shocking bone chilling life changing shit we have ever heard or dealt with otherwise I’ma be pissed especially if it’s just like a friendly neighborhood alien scenario. Like you’ve been in fear we would learn about friendly aliens who have wanted to help us for decades but you think it would shock us? Yeah I’ll be pissed beyond anything if it turns out so vanilla.
TheThreeInOne on
You know, I studied many collapsing civilizations in a history course I took in high school. Most civilizations collapse when technology advances too quickly for the outmoded socio-political structure. Examples are Bronze Age Civilizations, Easter Island, Greenland, etc. So what he’s saying makes sense. We think of the modern world as something that will self-sustain for centuries, but that is definitely not true.
iamacheeto1 on
Well at least I have a reason to stick around for a few more years then huh
daNorthernMan on
I check in on this sub every so often. Still nothing I see
ripley1981 on
Religious people are going to freak out anyway. There’s no controling that. And for me, the longer they hold out on telling the truth the more I distrust anyone with power.
There will be fall out no matter what. Deal with it now or later, there will be fall out. There will be religious and society fall out. No avoiding it.
I no longer trust the people who control this information or the corporations that are kept in the loop on disclosure and the technology. It all seems to always come down to money and power, rather than doing the right thing.
Unless there’s something else I’m not aware of, I don’t see the point of delaying disclosure any longer. Nuclear war could happen between now and 2030. What then? Lol – Only those that survive will find out the truth on aliens???
thereminDreams on
I don’t see how this is not direct acknowledgement that NHI and UAP exist and are on our planet. Aside from the seemingly endless occurrences of ‘Hey, I know some crazy stuff but I can’t say or show anything about it’, think of this guy’s position and what he’s done. He’s saying some very specific things that are tied directly to how disclosure would work.
ExtremeUFOs on
Why is this post still here? The UAP amendment was gutted and now people will think that disclosure will happen in 2030, I see peop;le saying remind me in 6 years, mods can we get this removed?
caffeinedrinker on
xposted to /r/exointelligence
EnforcerGundam on
2030 is also wef great reset coincidently
TweeksTurbos on
Roll it out now, collapse is already happening!
engion3 on
Can those images on the page get any fucking smaller?
alpha1five on
Ok so we all meet back here on 10/2030 , wait….. 10 – 20 – 30 …. is someone playing???🙄🙄🙄
ElleAnn42 on
Why would disclosure impact authority structures… and more importantly, will we learn something about current authority structures and the nature of the universe/existence that will cause us to question current authority structures?
Immaculatehombre on
No fucking way 2030. I need this shit expedited. I can’t wait 6 fucking years for answers. Get leakin ppl, please.
spock23 on
I’m still waiting on those July 2019 Aliens
AccomplishedPlankton on
Yeah how about NOW
Most_Associate9476 on
Some times you have to fake it before you make it. The fact that someone of his skill set and authority put this together means that this is being seriously thought of “behind the scenes”. Folks, these guys don’t work in a vacuum. govt, military, academia and private business talk more than you think.
This IS disclosure. It just happens slowly like this. It will lurch around a bit and take some time to find it’s sea legs, but it will pickup steam. The fact that there is a slide outlining vision, mission, goals, objectives, a timeline, risks, issues, etc. with mitigation strategies and campaign dynamics laid out… this goes a lot farther than you think.
They just gave a blueprint for disclosure to any leader or person of authority who has to explain these types of things to their constituency. This is something leaders can draw from and begin to make sense of the coming future. By leaders I mean Churches, schools, local governments, etc. This is how you get people of influence normalizing what was once taboo. Religions already broadly accept the existence of UFOs. The broader public now discusses it. Some grandmas are asking about it.
This IS the campaign. Just show as many people as you can the documentaiton he produced. Let them look up the credentials of everyone at SOL. This is how it gets legitimized. It was always going to take time. That’s just how stuff works if you want the general populace to not lose their shit.
It’s always been done this way
JagsOnlySurfHawaii on
Losing control must suck when you thought you had it under control
JagsOnlySurfHawaii on
I can only see disclosure happening after a “9/11” sized event. The shock has to come from somewhere else that way they can point the finger in that direction not the other way, that way they can assume control of the situation instead of them coming out and saying we just don’t know and have no control. The US doesn’t want to make itself look like an ass after an event like this. What followed 9/11 might have been the single greatest event of “We are one, freedom never falls, rah rah shit” it rallied people together no matter what someone might say about 9/11. Alien disclosure would be another one of those events. It will be just another “Us and Them” scenario and I don’t know anyone who would honestly say they would side with something like Aliens.
xf_a49 on
Now it sounds like this is part of the globalist AGENDA 2030. 😒
Former-Science1734 on
I still advocate for ripping off the band aid. Stop dragging this out, it’s never going to be a great time just get it over with.
GroundbreakingMenu32 on
Thank you now I can leave this time-wasting sub 🙏
55gete on
Trump will oversee major disclosures, and people won’t trust them as a result.
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Check out the graphical road map of disclosure.
He says: ““We want disclosure through a controlled process, we want it in a way that doesn’t cause societal collapse. Like Eric Klyne talked about in 1177 BC, the system collapse of all the ancient societies. This is the order of concern about what may be happening.
“We have to address the technical, religious aspects of this.”
Well, at least we have a date to pin to test his credibility. In six years, let’s all come back here to see if he was right or not.
How credible is this guy?
Already starting to push back that 2027 date…
His “disclosure plan” is nothing more than his own best guess as to how this whole topic could be studied, declassified, and disseminated to the public.
It is not endorsed by anyone in the government, though it takes inspiration from the Schumer-Rounds UAPDA which seemed possible to pass when he gave this presentation at the SOL Foundation Symposium in September of last year.
Col. Nell seems like an upright fellow but we need to stop saying that his idea for a plan, which is great when viewed and considered for what it is, is the “government’s disclosure plan.”
!remindme 6 goddamnyears
By disclosure plan, do you mean the government denying everything and not giving us any real information? Because that’s all we’ve been getting
The upcoming years will be eventful. Hopefully we already know the 5 W’s and not just aliens are real. If we disclose without knowing the end game, then we are not ready to disclose without some panic. A six year disclosure plan makes me believe we know a lot behind the curtains already. My belief has always been that we have been given tech in exchange for abductions. Did we do this in fear of being behind in an earth arms race. Are some of the missing persons around the world a result of this?
There’s a lot of misunderstanding and misinterpretation of this slide going around, and that appears to be the case on this thread.
This is Karl Nell’s proposed/suggested approach to disclose, not an official plan for disclosure to be enacted. Yes he did contribute to the UAPDA and is an influential figure, but don’t read too much into this presentation.
The moment they disclose actual proof of aliens, the rest of the timescale will go out of the window. You cannot escape that red line, no matter how much fluff you publish beforehand. When they tell the world aliens are real, there will be many questions, the answers to which will steer what happens next.
Who are they? Where are they from? How many different groups are operating here? Why are they here? How long have you known about them?
People will demand to know what the government knows about this, so they better have some good answers. People will demand the history of official interactions with the aliens, any communications, any ‘agreements’ as Grusch mentioned, any crashes or shootdown, any technology recovered, everything.
If the answers aren’t good ones, and I and others suspect they are not, then the fallout will be catastrophic. All trust in government will be lost. A million lawsuits will be filed by anyone abducted, anyone threatened by the military, any injuries or loss of life incurred in this ‘project’.
Nell is dreaming if he thinks this can go smoothly.
I am taking this guy pretty damned serious. If he is making this up or if this is part of some disinformation campaign, then once again we seriously need to evaluate what the fuck is going on with our military and intelligence community.
If there really were no aliens or this guys really has no actual knowledge and is making this up, then he is deranged. So it begs the question how could someone like that be in the military and hold the position he does? That bears just as much investigation as the UFO question.
so disclosure will happen before my mortgage loan matures 😩
People say “you don’t understand the slides” and I’m like no, I understand. That’s not an agreed plan, just his speculation.
That still makes me go “fuck 2030, disclosure NOW”
*The Universe would collapse if I revealed this secret*.
Universes hate this guy for this one trick!
Mom “we have disclosure at home” … disclosure at home:
Side note though, isn’t disclosure of a disclosure plan… well… ***disclosure?***
Why Not Disclose Now if they are already here. I mean if they are here and not bothering us so what??? Is he suggesting that we may see a UFO but we have just to pretend they dont exist. There is somthing missing here!!!
l’ll believe it when I see it
And it damn well better be the most shocking bone chilling life changing shit we have ever heard or dealt with otherwise I’ma be pissed especially if it’s just like a friendly neighborhood alien scenario. Like you’ve been in fear we would learn about friendly aliens who have wanted to help us for decades but you think it would shock us? Yeah I’ll be pissed beyond anything if it turns out so vanilla.
You know, I studied many collapsing civilizations in a history course I took in high school. Most civilizations collapse when technology advances too quickly for the outmoded socio-political structure. Examples are Bronze Age Civilizations, Easter Island, Greenland, etc. So what he’s saying makes sense. We think of the modern world as something that will self-sustain for centuries, but that is definitely not true.
Well at least I have a reason to stick around for a few more years then huh
I check in on this sub every so often. Still nothing I see
Religious people are going to freak out anyway. There’s no controling that. And for me, the longer they hold out on telling the truth the more I distrust anyone with power.
There will be fall out no matter what. Deal with it now or later, there will be fall out. There will be religious and society fall out. No avoiding it.
I no longer trust the people who control this information or the corporations that are kept in the loop on disclosure and the technology. It all seems to always come down to money and power, rather than doing the right thing.
Unless there’s something else I’m not aware of, I don’t see the point of delaying disclosure any longer. Nuclear war could happen between now and 2030. What then? Lol – Only those that survive will find out the truth on aliens???
I don’t see how this is not direct acknowledgement that NHI and UAP exist and are on our planet. Aside from the seemingly endless occurrences of ‘Hey, I know some crazy stuff but I can’t say or show anything about it’, think of this guy’s position and what he’s done. He’s saying some very specific things that are tied directly to how disclosure would work.
Why is this post still here? The UAP amendment was gutted and now people will think that disclosure will happen in 2030, I see peop;le saying remind me in 6 years, mods can we get this removed?
xposted to /r/exointelligence
2030 is also wef great reset coincidently
Roll it out now, collapse is already happening!
Can those images on the page get any fucking smaller?
Ok so we all meet back here on 10/2030 , wait….. 10 – 20 – 30 …. is someone playing???🙄🙄🙄
Why would disclosure impact authority structures… and more importantly, will we learn something about current authority structures and the nature of the universe/existence that will cause us to question current authority structures?
No fucking way 2030. I need this shit expedited. I can’t wait 6 fucking years for answers. Get leakin ppl, please.
I’m still waiting on those July 2019 Aliens
Yeah how about NOW
Some times you have to fake it before you make it. The fact that someone of his skill set and authority put this together means that this is being seriously thought of “behind the scenes”. Folks, these guys don’t work in a vacuum. govt, military, academia and private business talk more than you think.
This IS disclosure. It just happens slowly like this. It will lurch around a bit and take some time to find it’s sea legs, but it will pickup steam. The fact that there is a slide outlining vision, mission, goals, objectives, a timeline, risks, issues, etc. with mitigation strategies and campaign dynamics laid out… this goes a lot farther than you think.
They just gave a blueprint for disclosure to any leader or person of authority who has to explain these types of things to their constituency. This is something leaders can draw from and begin to make sense of the coming future. By leaders I mean Churches, schools, local governments, etc. This is how you get people of influence normalizing what was once taboo. Religions already broadly accept the existence of UFOs. The broader public now discusses it. Some grandmas are asking about it.
This IS the campaign. Just show as many people as you can the documentaiton he produced. Let them look up the credentials of everyone at SOL. This is how it gets legitimized. It was always going to take time. That’s just how stuff works if you want the general populace to not lose their shit.
It’s always been done this way
Losing control must suck when you thought you had it under control
I can only see disclosure happening after a “9/11” sized event. The shock has to come from somewhere else that way they can point the finger in that direction not the other way, that way they can assume control of the situation instead of them coming out and saying we just don’t know and have no control. The US doesn’t want to make itself look like an ass after an event like this. What followed 9/11 might have been the single greatest event of “We are one, freedom never falls, rah rah shit” it rallied people together no matter what someone might say about 9/11. Alien disclosure would be another one of those events. It will be just another “Us and Them” scenario and I don’t know anyone who would honestly say they would side with something like Aliens.
Now it sounds like this is part of the globalist AGENDA 2030. 😒
I still advocate for ripping off the band aid. Stop dragging this out, it’s never going to be a great time just get it over with.
Thank you now I can leave this time-wasting sub 🙏
Trump will oversee major disclosures, and people won’t trust them as a result.